User Name Remember Me? Firmin Button Dates? If so, what are the dates for each I am guessing pre ? Many thanks in advance. Find all posts by GriffMJ. Neil Pearce. This at least dates the first one I guess, but am sure someone can do better! PM me if you would like the info. I often find it useful as it covers quite a few makers Cheers, Neil. Peter Brydon.
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Ray Westlake. Your browser will redirect to your requested content shortly. They also occasionally include a pictorial trademark such as the Prince of Wales plume found on Jennensrsquo buttons from. Known button types associated with the maker or with particular backmarks are also noted where it is considered that they might be helpful.
RECheshire Shoulder Title A rare white metal shoulder title for the st Cheshire Royal Engineers Volunteers with three lug fastenings north east and west In addition to listing backmarks any relevant information concerning the button makers is shown in summary form. The items of militaria shown below can be viewed in our online shop complete with full descriptions photographs and prices.
Button dating. There is very P&S Firmin, Strand London appears in and continues to c/9. In the firm has become Firmin & Son. Button.
In the factory moved from Aston to Newtown Row where Firmin continues to manufacture buttons today. This makes personalisation economic for relatively small numbers. It should be noted that confirmation of a backmark does not imply confirmation of any dates associated with them. There are many American books that are about pin-buttons or lapel buttons, rather than buttons as such.
Over the years the fabric will have rotted away, leaving us with just the buttons. The listing is in alphabetical order, by company name.
Metal : Pewter. Image Source: Private. They are all flat TWO piece and either gilded copper or plated depending on the lace of the regiment.
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Thomas Firmin was born in Ipswich , Suffolk in and was apprenticed to The Girdlers Company the makers of belts both for fine dress and for utility. The business can therefore be said to have been established by this date of He went on to be a noteworthy citizen of London.
The first are the uniform buttons, that is buttons from the liveries worn by men servants, indoor and Firmin and Co.; Jennens and Co.; Hammond Turner and Sons; Piggot and Co.; and different kinds may occasionally help to date garments.
The marking is invariably produced by die stamping, which is an inherent part of the manufacturing process, and backmarks produced in this way continue to be used to the present day. The list that follows identifies British manufacturers and the backmarks they used from the earliest ones recorded until about the middle of the twentieth century. They have been collated from a large number of sources over a long period of time, both documentary and from the buttons themselves, most of which have been recovered by metal detectorists.
In general, dates should be regarded as approximate, and not exclusive unless the context indicates otherwise. It is also the case that there are some differences in respect of dating between the secondary sources that have been consulted. The listing is in alphabetical order, by company name. During the period concerned, this is invariably the surname s of the founder s. Where various members or generations of the same family worked for the business, they are listed under the common surname.
Livery Buttons would have been worn on uniforms of servants working for wealthy families, the buttons had the family crest on the front. The button found has a boars head over a crown, which suggests a high status family. Several volunteers have searched for the image but have only found slightly different ones, the Scottish Lockhart and Campbell family crests are similar but not the same.
John Emeris, one was Lord of the Manor in , so the button may be theirs.
On 2/11/ a livery button was found by Barry Howard with his metal their name on the reverse, known as backmarks which helps date them. There were several other button makers at St Martins Lane including Firmin & Sons at Nos.
The most noticeable difference between an old and newer IV button is the design of the harp. The old button, on the left, has a broader harp with eight strings the newer design has nine strings. Strings are further apart on the older button. A Uniform Committee of the Irish Volunteers was formed to decide on the uniform to be worn, a report from this committee which met on the 12th of August shows a list of the chosen manufacturer for the various items of uniform needed.
Comyn Brothers of College Green Dublin were chosen to manufacture the buttons. The report also shows that the cloth would be supplied by Murrogh Brothers and the uniforms manufactured by The Limerick Clothing Factory. As can be seen from these articles which appeared in the Irish Examiner manufactures of Irish Volunteer uniform were trying to pass of their material as that approved by the Irish Volunteer Uniform Committee. The Dripsey Woollen Mills Ltd, which had a plant in Cork, advertised a competition for the best dressed Irish Volunteer wearing a uniform made from the cloth they produced the add stating that their cloth was approved by the Provisional Committee.
There are some guaranteed period buttons on display at the Limerick Museum and they are on the uniform jacket of Colonel Michael Colivet. The uniform was made by Thomas Donovan of Limerick. The uniform has four patch pockets, each with button down flap with single small button. Four large buttons at front for fastening.
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Button and clip (1 of 5), 68th Regiment of Foot, British Army, brass, made by Firmin & Sons, London, England, found Wentworth Park, New South Wales.
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Re: Button ID Nice button! If I’m not mistaken that backmark would date this between British manufacturer.